Chabloz cross-examined

I have written about the Chabloz case here here and here.

Today Ms Chabloz took the witness stand at Southwark Crown Court in her Appeal. She was examined by her barrister Adrian Davies then cross-examined by the CPS barrister James Mulholland QC. The Judge Christopher Hehir frequently interjected.

Davies asked her if she had any “right wing history”. No. She became interested in politics in 2011 at the outset of the Occupy Movement.  She supports Jeremy Corbyn. She was ‘trolled’ by Stephen Applebaum aka ‘Nemo’ and was then sacked from a music job on a cruise ship, for which she blamed Ambrosine Shitrit who gave her name to Steven Silverman (of the CAA). Complaints about her were made to the Scottish Police and the organisers of the Edinburgh Festival. Shopping catalogues were sent to her, addressed to ‘Mrs Holocaust Denier’.  After her London Forum appearance in September 2016 (two of the three songs which are the subject of the case date from that) her Twitter account was removed at the initiative of the CST. The police had told her to take an unopened ‘birthday card’ and a shopping catalogue to be tested for DNA. But they closed down the investigation.  The CPS ordered her to be taken into custody at 24h notice.

In fact she did five songs at the London Forum event. One was by Gerard Menuhin. Another was about the Havara agreement which was a collaboration between Jews and Nazis.

Revisionists do not deny the Holocaust.

The camps were prison camps not death camps.

The London Forum is not ‘far right’ – Piers Corbyn features on their website.

James Mulholland QC (JM) began by asking Ms Chabloz about the quenelle salute she had performed in Edinburgh. Did she not agree that the quenelle is antisemitic? Did she think that the UK belongs to whites? Some Jewish people look white, she said. Pressed as to whether Jews are English she said that some Jews in the UK are more loyal to Israel than to the UK , otherwise they would not try to limit freedom of speech.  She quoted from a revisionist author (Pierre Vidal  Naquet)  who called Elie Wiesel a ‘Shoah Peddler’. The Talmud teaches Jews to lie; Zionist Jews are more likely to lie. The definition of Zionism: someone who believes that Jews have more rights than others in Israel.

JM (it might have been the Judge) asked her how many Jews died in the Holocaust?  She agreed that she was a ‘revisionist’and revisionists put the figure at around 600,000. JM asked her about her use of the word ‘Holohoax’ in her songs. She replied that they were just silly songs, not a PhD thesis. JM responded that they were songs designed to abuse. Asked about her allegation that some ‘survivors’ are bogus , lying to make money, she said there was a great incentive to lie. Asked about why she chose the tune of Hava Nagila for some of (((Survivors))), she said it was ‘a gift from God’. The song had been viewed   44,000 times. 80% of the responses were ’Likes’,  only 20% ‘Not Likes’. Most ‘revisionist’ books are no longer on sale, the Board of Deputies  has ensured that.

JM asked her about “I like It As It Is “ – why had she set the words The shrunken heads, soap and lampshades to the melody of Hevenu shalom aleichem, a song which Jews sing at celebrations? It just came into my mind, Ms Chabloz said.

She said that she had had to return to live with her parents because no-one would give her work as a result of the allegations against her. She had received constant hate mail and she partly blamed the stress for her parents’ sickness (her father had a heart attack, her mother a double brain haemorrhage). She hadn’t ever sent her songs to anyone, she just uploaded them. Very few people had posted negative comments about them.

The Judge told her that she knew the shrunken heads, soap and lampshades reference would be seen as highly offensive by Jewish people. She responded that these were myths, no lampshades had been made from the skin of Holocaust victims, no soap had been made from their corpses and their heads had not been shrunk. The Jews need to come away from the atrocity propaganda. Only Jews who believed the shrunken heads, soap and lampshades narrative would be offended. Her songs are not a product of hate, they are a product of love, trying to free them [the Jews] from this atrocity propaganda.

There’s no evidence that Holocaust victims were gassed. There were gas chambers but they were used purely for disinfectant. Jews were needed to work in the camps, there was no reason to kill them. If the Nazis had wanted to kill Jews they would have done it on the spot, they did not have to have the expense of transporting them to the camps to be killed.

The Judge interjected. Had Ms Chabloz not read the judgment of Mr Justice Gray in the Irving v Penguin Books case? Gray said that no objective historian would deny that there were gas chambers. The Judge (it might have been JM) said that Ms Chabloz had not read the Gray judgment as she was not interested. JM said that she had a perception about Jews and seeks out anything which justifies it.

She said that her interest in the Holocaust had started with her sympathy for the Palestinians. All the books by survivors are published under the heading of ‘Fiction’. It is untrue that investigating the Holocaust makes her a vicious Jew hater.

JM asked her about the references in her songs to Jews making money from non-Jews (Thanks to your debt We’re bleeding you dry) and to Jewish control of the banks and media. Ms Chabloz referred to bankers, the Lehman Brothers crisis, the creation of money, the ever increasing National Debt which could be paid off with a couple of phone calls. The gap between rich and poor was wider than ever. Over the past 30 years all the Directors of the Federal Reserve Board have been Jewish and most have been Zionists.

The Judge asked Ms Chabloz about Elie Wiesel. Had she heard of the Death Marches? (Elie Wiesel describes in his 1958 book Night how he and his father were forced on a death march from Buna to Buchenwald). Ms Chabloz did not accept that Wiesel was deported to Buchenwald. Rather than go with the Russian liberators of Auschwitz, Wiesel went with the Germans. There was no trace of a tattoo on Wiesel’s arm. It is questionable whether Wiesel was ever in Auschwitz: the camp register does not include him. Pierre Vidal Naquet calls Wiesel a Shoah Peddler.

The Judge interjected. What about the Nuremberg affidavit of Rudolf Höss, the longest-serving commandant of Auschwitz? He estimated that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total of about 3,000,000 dead.

In response Ms Chabloz quoted  Carlo Mattogno who has written that the “confessions” were extorted by the British from Höss. The Nuremberg trials were unfair.

JM suggested to her that her position was that she could get away with whatever she wanted in her songs, because they are songs and not rational debate. He then asked her if she thought that Jews control the media (‘We control your media Control of your books and TV’).

The Zionists control the media, the globalist elite. Jews control Twitter. Jews are over-represented in Parliament despite the fact that we are supposed to have equal opportunities. Jews like Alan Dershowitz often point out how successful Jews are. JM asked her if Jewish people saying they are successful justifies her saying Jews control the media?

She returned to defending her songs as ‘satire’: satire is a great British tradition. Why did CAA not go after Ricky Gervais? Because they wanted to chase someone ‘little’ like her instead. This is her country- generations back – she was born here.

Israel needs to be criticised because of the Nation State Law which privileges Jews. The Zionists wanted Jews to die in Europe. During WW2 there was a Rabbi who went to Basle to get money to extricate Jews from the camps He was told by the Zionists to go away: as many Jewish deaths as possible were needed in order to help found the state of Israel.

JM asked her about a line in ‘Nemo’s Antisemitic Universe’:  ‘Now Auschwitz, holy temple, is a theme park just for fools”. She said that it has become a temple, a place of pilgrimage. Another line (JM said) is “Six million tales spread contempt for all us goys”. She cited Shlomo Sand: Invention of the Jewish people.

Away, O they’ve been sent away, for their crimes, one hundred times. Why do, we let them in again, to steal what’s yours, take what’s mine? JM asker her about these lyrics. Have Jews brought it on themselves then? She agreed that this was an issue. Her own situation had come about because Jews have too much power and influence. Gideon Falter of the CAA had a private interview with Theresa May, when she was still Home Secretary. Gideon Falter and Steve Silverman cannot be properly English because they both support the racist state of Israel.

The Germans recognised the importance of artistic endeavour. They had orchestras and choirs in the camps. But she [Chabloz] cannot now play her music anywhere.

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I Like the Story As It Is (to the tune of Simon and Garfunkel ‘El Condor Pasa’

I’d rather be a Gentile than a …. non-Gentile
Yes it’s true. So would you. If you only knew. Mm..Mm
All those lies about their history and the past
To guarantee …Israeli hegemony .. Tribal supremacy. Mm ..Mm
Away, O they’ve been sent away, for their crimes, one hundred times.
Why do, we let them in again, to steal what’s yours, take what’s mine?
And then to moan and whine.  Mmmm ….Mmmm.
The first great lie concerns the Lord above

They claim to be his choice minority
They alone deserve his love. Mmmm ….Mmmm.
The second lie imposes usury, on you and me
Yes it’s true, since Waterloo. Mmmm ….Mmmm.
The third claims Six Million were gassed alive

Their bodies burnt, or so we learn
I used to question, how this could have come to pass
Now I insist. It’s a damn fine tale, I like the story as it is.

(Switches to the tune of an Israeli song, Evenu Shalom Alechem)

The shrunken heads, soap and lampshades
The shrunken heads, soap and lampshades
The shrunken heads, soap and lampshades
I do insist. I like the story as it is.

Electrocution, steam and diesel
Electrocution, steam and diesel
Electrocution, steam and diesel
I do insist. I like the story as it is.

The coloured smoke from the chimney
The coloured smoke from the chimney
The coloured smoke from the chimney
I do insist. I like the story as it is.

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Here are the words of (((Survivors))):

Hello everybody … Thanks for tuning in … New demo … It’s called “Survivors” … With three sets of brackets around it … “

My name is Irene Zisblatt and I come from Hungary
Can you believe what evil Nazi bastards did to me
They gassed me once, they gassed me twice
But escape I did
Over the electric fence
Landed on the train

I saw them taking babies and then tearing them in two
And creepy Dr Mengele he removed my tattoo
They tried to turn my brown eyes blue
Make lampshades from my skin
For months I swallowed diamonds
And shat them out again.

(Switches to tune of Hava Nagila)

Come on, my brother
Tell us another
Story for cover
Of tribal gain
Safe in our tower
Now is the hour
Money and power
We have no shame

Let’s cheat and lie on film
No one suspects a thing
Bigger the lie is better for us!
Every fake survivor
Every fake survivor’s laughing
Fake survivors’ tongues are wagging
All us frauds are busy blagging
Spin and yarn there’ll be no gagging
You shall pay
All the way
Every night and day!

My name is Elie Wiesel may I show you my tattoo
[Talks … “Oh … Where’s it gone?”]
I wrote a book for US kids to study while at school
It’s full of nonsense tales of course
What do you all expect?
But it made me very wealthy
As a liar I’m the best

At Auschwitz they burned babies
Though the water table’s high
Fred Leuchter’s work on ditches, well it made me almost cry
Treblinka was a another one
There was no funeral pyre
And I cannot speak Hungarian
But oh boy can I lie

Tell us another
Come on my brother …. [Repeats, see above]

History repeats itself
No limit to our wealth
Thanks to your debt
We’re bleeding you dry
We control your media
Control of your books and TV
With the daily lies we feed you
Suffering victimisation
Sheeple have no realisation
You shall pay
All the way
Until the break of day

My name is Otto Frank and my daughter’s name is Anne
The poor girl died of typhus at Bergen-Belsen camp
She wrote an introduction
To her famous diary
But the rest was penned by Levin
And then publishèd by me

Two thousand and sixteen the copyright came to an end
The Anne Frank Trust decided once again the rules to bend
We truly had no choice although
The whole thing really stank
But the book now has two authors
Yes they’re Anne and Otto Frank.

Tell me another
Come on my brother …. [Repeats, see above]

Bank notes let’s print some more
We love to see you poor
Let’s start a war
Our pockets to line
There is no more doubting
Every nation’s debt is mounting
While the bankers keep on counting
Pension fund has now gone awol
Nothing left upon your table
You must pay
Night and day
Until the end of time

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Postscript: This blog was written without commentary because the case was ongoing.

 

 

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